BendyCindy
07/12/17 11:46PM
Net Neutrality
Hey, you like porn? You wanna keep looking at your porn?
You like your money?
You wanna keep looking at your porn without paying more money to ISPs that already make a butt-fuck of money?

Then boi/gril, you need Net Neutrality! For years now, Internet warriors have fought against the tyranny of ISPs to keep sites from being bottlenecked. Now it's your time to be one of those warriors!

You can help out by going to https://www.battleforthenet.com/ and filling out that short little thing sending a letter to the FCC and US Congress (one is already typed out for you with persuasive points, but you can clear it and write your own). If you don't wanna do that, you can just write a letter, email, or send a phone call to your state's Representatives or Senators and let them know how much the loss of Net Neutrality sucks. Otherwise, let other people know about this. The more people who know, the better.

But I don't live in the US!
lol, that doesn't matter, my dude. This bottleneck will apply to US-based servers, which will restrict your access to websites that are based in the US, even if you don't live in the US. It will also essentially kill all small, growing websites based here in the US that can't pay for the "fast lanes" like existing big sites.


If you want more information from someone who knows a lot more about this than me, feel free to read this article by the co-creator of Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/6mtgtp/we_need_your_voice_as_we_continue_the_fight_for/


Stay horny, my friends.
Amo
07/12/17 11:47PM
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Myraka
07/13/17 04:11AM
weteye2P
07/13/17 10:53PM
BendyCindy said:

You can help out by going to https://www.battleforthenet.com/ and filling out that short little thing sending a letter to the FCC and US Congress (one is already typed out for you with persuasive points, but you can clear it and write your own). If you don't wanna do that, you can just write a letter, email, or send a phone call to your state's Representatives or Senators and let them know how much the loss of Net Neutrality sucks. Otherwise, let other people know about this. The more people who know, the better.

But I don't live in the US!
lol, that doesn't matter, my dude. This bottleneck will apply to US-based servers, which will restrict your access to websites that are based in the US, even if you don't live in the US. It will also essentially kill all small, growing websites based here in the US that can't pay for the "fast lanes" like existing big sites.



But -

A US ISP can throttle the speed for its US users . But a US based web host connects directly to the net without going through a local ISP?

And even if it did - there's a blindingly obvious solution for small sites , even for US residents. Buy web hosting from someone whose servers are outside the US . Canada Germany, Britain , Ireland, Bermuda , Jamaica, Turks & Cacos - wherever. That's the whole thing about the Internet - the world's your oyster. You can step straight outside national boundaries to a place where your local laws don't apply

And if the USA is really stupid enough to screw small sites like that , some small island will be delighted to base its economy on offshore webhosting. It happens with offshore banking - websites are a whole lot easier

And if you live outside the USA - you don't have a U.S. Congressman, or a U.S Senator to call your own. The FCC will hit the delete button cos you don't have a vote. Non-US citizens don't get a say on U.S laws - by definition

jelloman
07/13/17 11:33PM
no, but as you just said, if the us starts to affect us based sites via ISP's, other countries will feel the sting too, so they can voice theyre thoughts saying "just because youtube was made in america and american laws say youtube sucks, other countries say youtube rocks so give it back to us"
Miss_Vulf
07/13/17 11:36PM
weteye2P said:
Non-US citizens don't get a say on U.S laws - by definition
"...the number of noncitizens voting illegally in U.S. elections is likely far greater than previous estimates."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/n...mber-higher-than-estimat/
Kielan
07/14/17 01:38AM
I have a feeling they will have to march in the streets to stop them on this one, they seemed very determined to cash in on this and so far are ignoring the massive wave of letters and complaints.
jelloman
07/14/17 04:19AM
honestly america is lazy, i am one of them ill admit, but i think if everyone stopped doing things, thatd send the message. want walmart to pay its taxes? everyone shop at target, never ever walmart again. sure its a little more expensive, but with walmarts ceo's being 2nd place behind bill gates in overall wealth *but bill actively pays/helps people etc* when their profits go from 100% to 0% in an instant theyd HAVE to act. just like net neutrality, if everyone stopped their cable companies because theyre being put through the wringer, then the cable companies would have to respond. corporations might have the power over congress, but we as a collective have power over them, people just dont realize that
Kielan
07/14/17 05:58AM
jelloman said:
honestly america is lazy, i am one of them ill admit, but i think if everyone stopped doing things, thatd send the message. want walmart to pay its taxes? everyone shop at target, never ever walmart again. sure its a little more expensive, but with walmarts ceo's being 2nd place behind bill gates in overall wealth *but bill actively pays/helps people etc* when their profits go from 100% to 0% in an instant theyd HAVE to act. just like net neutrality, if everyone stopped their cable companies because theyre being put through the wringer, then the cable companies would have to respond. corporations might have the power over congress, but we as a collective have power over them, people just dont realize that


That's the problem with monopolies, you cannot choose a better provider most times, it's like the data caps in the states, most countries have abolished those because there is plenty of bandwidth and it's cheap!

But in the states there is often no choice for one without a cap, no choice for an cable company that isn't against net neutrality, really the lack of competition in certain industries is well... at dystopian levels of broken right now in communications and food etc, they have already broken fair competition and other pillars of capitalism.

jelloman
07/14/17 06:13AM
wasnt saying pull back for better provider, i was saying pull back from ALL providers. if you cut into their bottom line, it shows WE have the power, not them. what are they gonna do, force us to have internet, the way they want it set up? so many people have guns in the US if someone tried to burst into their home to steal their money with stuff they dont want in return, i doubt theyd get far
bipface
07/14/17 11:56AM
jelloman said:
wasnt saying pull back for better provider, i was saying pull back from ALL providers.

well, good luck browsing rule34 with no internet connection

feel free to print out your HTTP requests and mail them to me; I'll be your proxy
jelloman
07/14/17 12:27PM
that was the point, bip XD yeah it sucks but if everyone stops paying for internet, they wont have an internet to police.....and also they wouldnt have money in their pockets so theyd reverse their decision REAL fast
bipface
07/14/17 01:02PM
jelloman said:
that was the point, bip XD yeah it sucks but if everyone stops paying for internet, they wont have an internet to police.....and also they wouldnt have money in their pockets so theyd reverse their decision REAL fast

i also wouldn't have money in my pocket since my salary is paid via the internet
Dragonslayer_Ornstein
07/14/17 10:40PM
bipface said:
i also wouldn't have money in my pocket since my salary is paid via the internet

So much of the world relies on the internet, you would have trouble doing most things. Wanna find a new job, or maybe you are just getting to where you are looking for a job? There's a high chance most places you go will say "apply online" etc.
jelloman
07/15/17 12:05AM
obviously things would be different for different people, but the point was if the cable companies really did tie up or cut off websites just because theyre not in their line, then people can just cut themselves off from those providers, who then would go "oh shit, ever since i said i hated the internet and everything it stands for, people have been leaving me, IM LOSING MONEY, I HAVE TO REVERSE THAT, ASAP" such is the might of capitalism, comcast, twc, fios, att, whatever you have, is only as powerful as our wallets make them. we keep buying into them, so they keep growing in power, but what happens when we stop? ;)
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