TonsOfTentacles
08/28/15 08:33PM
Yes, futanari is very over rated. We do need something new. But 8 genders. O.o I can't even imagine that. LOL XD It would be something new and different though. They might not be attractive, but it would be interesting to see. Someone should invent more genders. XD
Vic-bro
08/28/15 08:44PM
[Shrug.]
I like reading/watching Futanari/Futa on female hentai. I certainly wouldn't go as far as wanting to be one, considering today's judgmental public, but it's interesting to imagine.
TonsOfTentacles
08/28/15 09:25PM
Yeah, I would never want to be a Futanari.

Tentacles > Futanari :)
Rule63MePlease
08/29/15 04:08AM
Gloom said:
Rule63MePlease said:
And? People like attractive adult female humans, that's normal. Futa is not normal. There is a ton of things done with attractive adult female humans that is creative. But people seem to think a futa is creative just because it's a futa. It's not. :|
Gloom said:
You exposed your hypocrisy, just as planned.
Rule63MePlease said:
How many futas do you know in real life? I'm pretty sure it's not normal. :|

You missed the point. You basically said that artists who only draw females are creative while artists who only draw futanari are not creative. That is a double standard and only hypocrites uphold double standards. The fact that females are normal and futanari are not is irrelevant. In fiction, anything goes. Normality and creativity are not proportional to each other. Any work of fiction can potentially be either, neither or both.

You've exposed this same hypocrisy in the past, stating that furry artists and MLP artists are uncreative simply because they only draw those things. Specialization in one specific type of content is not a lack of creativity, regardless of what content that artist has chosen to specialize in. By making you attempt to explain why this double standard is OK, I've proven that you are biased and a hypocrite, and all it took was one simple question that I already knew your answer to.

I am now going to do something I haven't done yet: Make a bold statement about you. You believe any artists who creates something you don't like is uncreative while any artists who creates something you do like is creative. That is your bias, your double standard, that you use in many of your arguments. Unfortunately, it will never work against me.

Rule63MePlease said:
Yeah futas have no purpose so why would it matter if 8 other genders had no purpose? I'm just saying it would be something different. I never said they needed a purpose.
Gloom said:
Futanari can perform the roles of both males and females and can be used as a substitute for either if needed so they would serve a functional purpose, whereas an 8-gender race would either require all 8 members for reproduction which would be too complex and impractical to work or some of those genders would be redundant and have no reason to exist beyond offering insignificant variety.
Rule63MePlease said:
Futas can't reproduce. And you don't know what roles 8 other genders could fill because you don't know what they are. So you can't say for sure they would be completely pointless or redundant. No one has anyone way of knowing. I'm sure they would most likely not be attractive, but they would be very different, and most likely not just a 2 in 1 deal like a futa.

I didn't say for sure they would be completely pointless or redundant. I stated it would be possible that they could be pointless or redundant. There's a difference.

The possibility of futanari reproduction depends on the artist who drew them. You can't use real life as an indication of fictional reproduction for something that does not exist in real life and I already explained 2 pages ago why it can't exist. You are likely referring to real intersex people who are neither male or female and therefore lack reproductive ability. Again, in fiction, anything goes.


No you completely missed the point. :( If you have a character just standing there, any character it doesn't matter which one. That is not creative or interesting or new. But people seem to think if you make it a futa somehow that makes it awesome. When no it doesn't because it's been done already. There are millions of futa pictures out there so it's not anything new or interesting. It is super rare you see a creative and original futa picture, because everything has been done already. And with futas it has been WAY over done. Just adding a dick doesn't make it creative or interesting or original. :|
Gloom
08/29/15 05:15AM
Rule63MePlease said:
No you completely missed the point. :( If you have a character just standing there, any character it doesn't matter which one. That is not creative or interesting or new. But people seem to think if you make it a futa somehow that makes it awesome. When no it doesn't because it's been done already. There are millions of futa pictures out there so it's not anything new or interesting. It is super rare you see a creative and original futa picture, because everything has been done already. And with futas it has been WAY over done. Just adding a dick doesn't make it creative or interesting or original. :|

Just removing a dick doesn't make it creative or interesting or original either (post #1784697 vs. post #1791201). The people who think simply adding a penis is awesome are people who want to see it, just like people who think removing that penis and turning that character into a female think that is awesome. There are millions more male images and billions more female images out there and you rarely find anything truly original among them either. The majority of futanari art isn't "just adding a dick" anyway. It's created fresh, just like the female stuff.

Rule 63 is also often uncreative, taking a generic female body and dressing her up as a male character instead of actually making a female version of a character that retains as many physical attributes as possible and actually looks like the character they're meant to resemble. Very uncreative if you ask me.

Males and females are more overdone than futanari is. Just because you don't want to see futanari, doesn't mean they're overdone. It just means you need to start looking for things you do want instead of complaining about things you don't want.
Rule63MePlease
08/29/15 05:33AM
I never said anything about removing a dick makes a picture more interesting. I never said to any pictures this would be way better if they remove the dick! But a lot of idiots still to think just adding one would make it better. And it hasn't created anything new, just doing what was already done but with futa.

And this topic is not about Rule 63. You are going off topic.

It is over done and over rated. It's time for something new.
Gloom
08/29/15 05:58AM
You can repeat that statement all you want, it doesn't make it true. Just because you think it's overdone, overrated and uncreative, that doesn't mean it is.
TonsOfTentacles
08/29/15 06:31AM
The pictures you posted does kind of prove Rule63's point. They are the very same thing. Both are nothing really creative or new, and yet people seem to thing the one with the dick is way better. The one with the dick currently has a score of 59, while the one without the dick only has 34. Why such a big gap? They should be about the same. It's almost like the world just hates pussy now a days. DX
So yeah it is over rated. XD
Gloom
08/29/15 06:37AM
That character is a futanari by default. The futanari image was created first, the female variant second. This is a case of the penis being removed, not added.
TonsOfTentacles
08/29/15 07:03AM
It doesn't matter which was made first. The score is still much higher on the futanari when they are just the very same picture. Like people think it's way more interesting just because of a penis.
Miss_Vulf
08/29/15 07:18AM
daily reminder that the highest voted image on the site is a straight image containing nothing out of the ordinary at all
post #1072790
Gloom
08/29/15 07:26AM
TonsOfTentacles said:
It doesn't matter which was made first. The score is still much higher on the futanari when they are just the very same picture. Like people think it's way more interesting just because of a penis.

Don't be so sure.

post #1550099:94 vs. post #1550100:48
post #1505484:54 vs. post #1505868:29
post #1799329:180 vs. post #1799332:149

The first image is female, the second one is futanari. Notice the female ones have a higher score. People look for and vote on what they want to see, and creativity is often a non-factor. Some like females, some like futanari.

If you're going to try to use scores to prove that more people are favoring futanari just because they're futanari, try doing a score-based search and see what you get.

Solo females: rule34.xxx/index.php?page...ale+-intersex+-futa*+solo
Solo futanari: rule34.xxx/index.php?page...score%3a%3E200+futa*+solo

Notice the females have more high-scoring images and generally higher scores on those images?
TonsOfTentacles
08/29/15 07:53AM
You posted the same image twice. And most of those have been on this site for a very long time, before the site was flooded with futanari, so they have had time to get a higher score.

What are the scores for tentacles? :)
Miss_Vulf
08/29/15 08:05AM
TonsOfTentacles said:
What are the scores for tentacles? :)
only 3 above 200
rule34.xxx/index.php?page...=score%3a%3E200+tentacles
highest is 232
post #847186
TonsOfTentacles
08/29/15 08:18AM
Only 3? Awww, we need more then that. >:)
What about 100+?
<<<23 4 56>>>


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